Tiering System: High 1-B | 1-A. She’s not on Living Tribunal’s tier. here is a fight that involves. Who can beat Pre-Retcon Beyonder? 7. . Thought Robot without any effort. But that doesn't mean Perpetua's feats are bad. Round 2: Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs Alien X (author statements included). 2. Jan 22, 2018. Archie sonic defeated someone who could destroy millions of MULTI-VERSE zones. Both High 1-B Thanos: 2 Beyonder:8 Inconclusive: 1 P. in classic era: Jim. The same exact way Presence is the Supreme Being of the DC Multiverse. Member. Pre Retcon Beyonder shitstomps the edgelord version of Batman into the ground, along with the rest of the DCverse. The living embodiment of The Beyond Realm, a reality outside of the Marvel multiverse, he utilizes his powers over reality, space, and time to observe the neverending battle between good and evil, serving as both an ally and enemy to Earth’s greatest heroes. perpetua slams but shinra one taps both because he’s tier -1 and transcends all. Key: Incomplete Cosmic Cube | Ascended Cosmic Cube (Kosmos) | Adult Beyonder | Escaped from the House of Ideas. Within the beyond realm, he's supposed to be omnipresent. Seriously at his peak height, Pre Retcon Beyonder was something that no current DC character could handle. g. With the tumor, Hajun has an Taiyoku level of Infinity . In Immortal Hulk#50 TOAA said he becomes TOBA when he has to do. Pre Retcon Beyonder is multiversal while Homelander is low A tier. Rune King Thor is still under Omnipotent beings such as The-One-Above-All and Pre-Retcon Beyonder. British_Tea_Company • 7 yr. Morals off. I realize that this doesn't exactly answer your question. Mxyzptlk, Lucifer Morningstar, & Maxwell (DC) VS Pre Retcon Beyonder, Molecule Man & Galactus (Marvel) 2. Beyonder (Post-Retcon) Beyonder Prime Marvel Universe. 2 years ago. And Anyone that says Dragonball characters can beat someone like the Living Tribunal is delusional. PR Beyonder is millions of times stronger than the Marvel multiverse. Random encounter. The Pre-Retcon Beyonder is literally millions of times more powerful than the Marvel creation which contains infinite multiverses upon infinite multiverses upon infinite multiverses and so on. Beyonder stomps Whole Touhou fodder verse with a thought,while beyonder has feats and proof of being 1-A(Outversal) not being limited to infinitely high geometric dimensions to the verse itself, there is touhou's verse in which the dimensions have been debunked and do not qualify as superior and the ability of yukari only works on beings of a level below her and does not work on beings of a. Pre-Retcon Beyonder (33 votes) Lucifer 61%. Special Conditions: None. Unwritten Leviathan are highly hyperversal, if not extraversal. I know someone think that Victor means Cosmic cube not Beyonder pre-retcon ,but I think it's Beyonder pre-retcon. hÀng nguyÊn bẢn- beyonder pre-retcon; 2. 0. Attack Potency= Atleast Universal+ (killed countless cosmic beings from countless realities) | Atleast Hyperversal (3 of them was enough to kill The Living Tribunal and their battle with him raged across all realities at the same time) | High Hyperversal (The Beyonder from the secret wars (that would mean that the version of. Speed Equalized Round 1: Gauntlet Scenario Round 2: John. @Prince CortSether said: Assuming PR Beyonder in this thread stands for Pre-retcon like it usually does. ) Pre-recton Beyonder, was the sum of everything. Respect Pre-Retcon Beyonder. I'm not taking sides. The rest of the rounds Marvel is pretty dominant, maybe they could do something in the final round. Sure he can beat the post-retcon Beyonder. Only the Great Evil Beast is equal to The Presence. Follow 1187. We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured. . Composite-DC/Vertigo's Infinite Hierarchy is. 0. Omnipotent, Beyonder organized an event called Secret Wars, in which he kidnapped the most important superheroes and supervillains in the Marvel universe, for a confrontation between them on a distant planet. The Beyonder is a cosmic being of immense power, often labelled as omnipotent during the issues of Secret Wars, and much stronger than all the other cosmic entities. Dec 24, 2015. Thor Vs Justice League : Vs AVENGERS : 12 Cosmic Beings in Marvel : 2, 2016. the Source blinks Pre-Retcon Beyonder. The one below all (TOBA). In Secret Wars 2, the Beyonder was above the real Living Tribunal (In the retcon, it was. Theoreticaly speaking yes Pre Retcon Beyonder is above TOAA simply because TOAA is the most powerful being in the marvel universe, and PRB is 1 million times more powerful than the collective. . Created by. Yep. it would be mostly stalemate. The Physical Timeline Multiverse of DC has changed sizes from being 52 Timelines. Many People are Underestimating Pre Retcon Beyonder in The Comments but they are forgetting some thing. If we separate the pre-Retcon Beyonder from the current current lineup, it's probably more powerful than an infinite dimensional multiverse, and even the highest-level beings in it are far more powerful than those who didn't fully transcend the concept of dimension at the time. TOAA probably isn't more powerful than suggsverse characters. Word Lords, the Celestis, Faction Paradox, etc. Tier: Varies, At least 2-A | At least 1-B, Likely Higher | Likely 1-A, Far Higher | High 1-A. Morals off. @Prince CortSether said: Assuming PR Beyonder in this thread stands for Pre-retcon like it usually does. Pre Retcon Beyonder was stated to be most powerful thing in all the almighty, and Oblivion first appeared in 1984 Ice Man. ProfessorRespect. Pre-Retcon Beyonder, as powerful as he is, is STILL bound by dimensionality. The One Above All/Pre retcon Beyonder (both characters were created by legendary comic book writers Jack Kirby and Jim Shooter, Beyonder and OAA are avatars of these two comic book writers. R1: Lucifer wins Mid-difficulty R2: Pre-recton beyonders wins high difficulty. CsmicRanker1314 1. The Only Thing I know. Pre Retcon Beyonder has been nearly killed before by lesser being and has been outsmarted more than once by people so far below his power level. 1. The power possessed by the Beyonders seems to dwarf all other beings in existence, with the exception of the One-Above-All, as the Beyonders were able to defeat and subsequently destroy every incarnation of every cosmic being that ruled over existence within a matter of months. Immersion: Beyonder (Pre/Post-Retcon), GoS Loki, HOI Vision, The One Above All and Multi Eternity via Eternity Mask, Deadpool with the Continuity Gem and She-Hulk (Classics); formerly Plot Resistance: The Beyonders (Ivory King), Beyonder (Post-Retcon); scaling from the other beyonders and GoS Loki Toon Force: She-Hulk (Classics); formerly the Elder gods should be top of their tier. beyonder (pre-retcon) old ones (the dark tower) the beyonders the dark tower Replies: 18; Forum: Versus Threads; the beyonders vs the Downstreamers. #44 Edited By Debunker020202. So BeyonderGod Beyonder > Cynical DemonbaneSearch titles only By: Search Advanced search…Beyonder by feats however after thinking about it i think EGD should win. 3 years ago. 0. PR Beyonder had full backing by Marvel Boss, Jim Shooter to do anything he wanted. Beyonder preretcon upgrade to 1A. . 0. The Beyonders who are attacking the multiverse are beings that live in the beyond, which most likely is either outside the multiverse, or be void between universes. MrStealYoSweetroll • 2 yr. Reply Beyonder (Marvel) Respect The Beyonders (Marvel) Homelander (The Boys) Respect Homelander! (The Boys, Dynamite) Respect Homelander (Amazon's The Boys) Pre-Retcon Beyonder. Still, Pre-retcon Beyonder stomps here. A High Nigh-Omnipotent being; with no limits. ago. 5 years ago. #8 Edited By Sungsam. A statement from Mephisto referring to that part of power as "so potenti is this. There it, the respect thread for Pre-Retcon Beyonder. Definitely Beyonder. Pre-Retcon Beyonder 10/10 destroy Flash. Dreamxd26 • 2 yr. Both are vastly above. 2. About Pre-retcon/Classic Beyonder. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. The only known beings who are above them are Lucifer, Michael and The Presence. Posts. This proves by showing you that he read the writer's mind and was able to talk to him and not only that, shred the comic-book and escaping to reality in 'Defenders: Beyond (2022-23)'Poll Current Lucifer Morningstar vs. Business, Economics, and Finance. 213. Your right about Oblivion shockingly. Beyonder. - Neither. Using these lines of evidence, pre-retcon beyonder clearly wields greater control over reality than OT god. u/nullfather can attest to that. @amendment50 @jardinain2 @decaf_wizard @watcher5000 Can help you out with his feats. Powers and Stats. SCP-682's adaptive powers are seriously NLF-prone. What Makes marvel only H1B while DC is Layers into Tier 0? Does DC truly scale higher than Marvel, is it the other way around or are they practically equal?. God’s best feat is him creating the concept of light with a single command, while Beyonder has crazy other things that are more impressive. @amendment50 @jardinain2 @decaf_wizard @watcher5000 Can help you out with his feats. He was basically like if God tried to create a champion capable of doing just about everything that. Rules: All tier zero characters from marvel are removed. Didn't Comic God of Stories affected Pre-Retcon Beyonder? 7 days ago. The Scarlet King scales above Aleph 2 and 3 which Marvel doesn't reach that level. MJJ's powers keep increasing exponentialy. She’s not on Living Tribunal’s tier. He may have to resort to starving. ~Old CBR Post Count: 834~. pre retcon beyonder is supposed to be above the living tribunal ( LT couldn't defeat him so he asked for MM's help) 11 years ago. In the comics Homelander’s best objective strength feat is throwing a fighter jet across a room and he doesn’t have anything comparable in the show. There is nothing he can do to hurt him while Beyonder can snap his finger and destroy Flash and the universe. Dem nah, There's toaa, pre retcon beyonder, toba,and true form oblivion as obvious choices but there's actually alot more. That’s how many drops of water there are in the ocean and marvel was only 1 drop compared to the beyonders power. 5)^2 + DUR^1. . He wins. This is shown many times throughout Secret Wars 2. @kingkronos said: @Pwok21 said:. ago. S. God’s best feat is him creating the concept of light with a single command, while Beyonder has crazy other things that are more impressive. my favourite DC tier 1 Beyonder: 1 TTR: Over 8 The Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) Quantu. There has been several incarnations of the Beyonder, each a retcon of the one before. 1. Even if it wasn't I'm pretty sure this wasn't added due to being a stomp. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Random encounter. Pre Retcon Beyonder gets wrecked hard lol. Honestly, current molecule man is a powerhouse even now, maybe even more so than his Pre-Retcon self. Jan 22, 2017. Win by death, KO, incapBeyonder (Pre Retcon) Molecule Man(Pre Retcon) The Living Tribunal; Oblivion; Amatsu-Mikaboshi (Chaos King) Cosmic Entities. Spectre is tapped into God so he has an unlimited amount of power at his disposal. I mean it would be awesome to see Beyonder whip his ass with ease but I mean, poor Anti-Monitor, he was an evil bastard but he did not deserve this. • 1 year ago. ^2 + DUR^1. Fight takes place in an empty multiverse. If someone can actually name a more. 81. Reply Slaine_Troyard •. I/O has a low-tier character that is on the level of Pre-Retcon Beyonder and everyone, as in literally EVERYONE, even the. My only question is: Is that Pre-Retcon. Beyonder pre retcon up to 1A and possible H1A Beyonder preretcon upgrade to 1A. Forum Posts. Bill also got more experience than Beyonder since Bill is over 1 trillion-year-old. but the other writers ruined and screwed up these characters. which allows michael to ignore boundless narrative hierarchy and can create the concept to make new ones over and. With that said, some random guy asked Tom Brevoort on Pre-retcon Beyonder being an omnipotent, and this is what he had to say. Every Super Power has a score (SPS) that is. The rest was necessary PIS to make a more interesting story. English Branch All Mighty can knock out SK tier entities by casting flood and elder gods who hold back from accidentally destroying entirety of existence are sitting in his shadows, that's enough for both lucifer and beyonder. Then there the Beyonder Child unit thing that is related to The beyonders. 4 years ago. In the comics Homelander’s best objective strength feat is throwing a fighter jet across a room and he doesn’t have anything comparable in the show. But it wont be easy by no means. S. Pre-Retcon Beyonder wrecks. Join this channel to get access to perks:…R1: Pre-Retcon Beyonder Takes Low-Mid Difficulty. Pre-Retcon beyonder could be said to be the "God before genesis" he was God before TOAA existed in the comics at that time, and when TOAA came into existence as an omnipotent character they had to greatly reduce the power of the Beyonder, from there they began to know him as "Post-retcon beyonder". MM is superior to LT due to defeating the Beyonders, who one-shotted LT in a. Universal. We can actually prove that Pre-Retcon Beyonder is fodder to Composite-DC. Name: The Living Tribunal Origin. Tier: Stellar | Endless | Realium | Transcendent: Keys: Base Galactus power absorbed | Infamous Iron-Man | Dual Infinity Gauntlet God Emperor Doom | Pre-Retcon Beyonder absorbed: Extra: Simple words can't describe the glory of Dr Doom, as Galactus, he deserve more than 5 stars 😤 Beyonder and Lucifer gets blinked by Shinra with his narrative manipulation. (50% off!) Beyonder vs The Presence. The Beyonder is a cosmic entity of immense power. #2. Even an Taiyoku level of One is easily Outerversal level. He'd beat composite Superman, let alone this robot. Abraxas, the personification of the destruction of the multiverse, is likely somewhere around here, although since he only. Follow 5232. Dr Manhattan is a very proficient matter-energy manipulator. everything else is nothing to him Galactus. PR Beyonder > Celestials > Phoenix Force. Since u said their "own" verse. Marvel tends to have their top tier have very physical feats while lucifer's are more metaphysical. And Anyone that says Dragonball characters can beat someone like the Living Tribunal is delusional. Pre-retcon Beyonder is beyond all that. Spectre. Living Tribunal has been beaten by several characters that are weaker than. The realm is known as the Engine Room, The Wild Spaces Beyond Reality, Heaven, The Mystery, The. The Beyonder deafeated Doom-avec-Galactus' power and dissected him. @mr-yes: Yeah I don't see how this makes him stronger than this Beyonder, who tangibly bypassed all of Marvel cosmology (even the parts supposedly "beyond" it) and did his Pre-Retcon feats as a. Since the Chaos Gods have no way to kill him, he'll eventually win. The living embodiment of The Beyond Realm, a reality outside of the Marvel multiverse, he utilizes his powers over reality, space, and time to observe the neverending battle between good and evil, serving as both an ally and enemy to Earth's greatest heroes. Round 4 same as round 3 the retcon happened for a reason. WF Mr. . Post retcon would be a closer fight. The Beyonder was originally an organizer of a massive. City. Pre-Retcon Beyonder. Goku is low outer at best and byonder is easily outerversal. PR Beyonder is a casual multiverse buster. First firament might exist before all the 8 creations but beyonder comes from different multiverse which treats the Marvel creation as a droplet of water . Nice. He needed to use his entire power to kill mistress death which left him drained . Plot Manipulation user (Marvel Comics) Defenders: Beyond #1-5 Beyonder Post-Retcon: It was stated and proven that he was capable manipulating his own canonicity and is aware of his own pervious retcons. Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated. @rabumalal: Dream would probably solo LT hes near pre-retcon beyonder level at best read into his feats. The Watchers. Dlaek66669; Thread;Business, Economics, and Finance. It's stated so multiple times throughout the comics. Beyonder is a cosmic Marvel Comics comic entity created by Jim Shooter, Mike Zeck and John Beatty. I have him at Multiversal. @mr-yes: Yeah I don't see how this makes him stronger than this Beyonder, who tangibly bypassed all of Marvel cosmology (even the parts supposedly "beyond" it) and did his Pre-Retcon feats as a. He killed all the beyonders who were the grown ups of this pre Retconned beyonder and literally absorbed their power and he was able to actually trap am. Conditions of the battle: *Composite Time Lords will include variants of the Time Lords from the Expanded Doctor Who Universe (e. Only if the Beyonder is in his realm, but that becomes a major stomp based on whats said here. He beat the Living Tribunal. Even LT feared him and begged him not to do everything he did. And Pre-Retcon Beyonder was being overwhelmed by The Phoenix Force. The original Beyonder was created for the Secret Wars (1985) miniseries. Having said this,we cannot scale and judge Pre Retcon Beyonder from what the Ivory Kings do. Round 2: Franklin wins. 548. No rules as pre-retcon Beyonder is silly powerful but try to keep the teams to a sensible size. Beyonder one writer turned the Beyonder into nothing more than a street-level jobber begging his Daddy or the Lost One to give him some of his powers to create a universe full of gambling and girlfriends because he probably doesn't have the power to do it simply because the Lost One is the source of all his powers and abilities. Named but mid-level Celestials. Pre-Retcon Beyonder just wishes Spectre to be gone and that's it. The Primal Monitor is the whole DC. Pre-Retcon Beyonder is probably here as well. Jan 22, 2018; Thread starter #2 bump . Beyonder is a top tier reality warper there is no spoon there is no trigger there is no SOK. Share Sort by: Best. Which then would put the DC team a few steps below the over-void - DC's prime meta. Alovenus is the strongest in fiction since Alovenus>Omnipotent beings. Yujiro defeated a big elephant that even 3 military cars with 5 black guys couldn't stop. Basically, either or both can be considered to be the presence, in either it's evil or good forms. Celestials > Post-Retcon Beyonder > Phoenix Force. Sorted by: 9. He was initially depicted as functionally omnipotent showing feats like creating planets and destroying galaxies. Yes. Victor knows about Beyonder's powers so if he knows that LF is powerful than Cosmic cube why doesn't he just says “ Even the powers of The 'Cosmic cube' was nothing compared to. The Pre-Retcon Beyonder TOAA is Marvel and the Presence/Elaine Belloc is DC, but there's a quote by Jim Shooter and Stan Lee from Marvel that puts The Pre-Retcon Beyonder more higher--even above TOAA, (including Elaine Belloc AKA the Presence) and that's “being millions and millions of times more powerful than Marvel". The brothers are strongest than the living tribunal and the spectre. However, high balled Merc (the transdual Taikyuko-in-disguise on) wtf Xeelee stomps Beyonder. Yujiro teaches the Beyond how to love, so I guess they both win. and to give Beyonder a curiosity, a reason to visit Earth in SWII. Manhattan is super strong. I am not referring to the Beyonder pre-retcon much less to are discussing about the mysterious race that killed several cosmic entities and probably will be the main villains of the secret wars. Lucifer could just tricked Beyonder like Molecule Man did to Beyonder. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. The Hand - Marked the beginning of creation. His Abilites consist of Powers and. Tiering System: High 1-B | 1-A Name:' The. Beyonder even realized he was the Pre-Retcon one too lol. All of Thanos’ feats are fodder tier in comparison to him. but the other writers ruined and screwed up these characters. " (Fun fact, guys like EGD and Beyonder exists outside. Pre Retcon is still cooler, jist because of cosmology Expansion, defenders beyonder seems stronger but he is featless for now. Contrary to popular belief, Pre-Retcon Molecule Man is actually significantly below Pre-Retcon Beyonder in terms of power. even the abstracts in marvel have an odd sort of "cosmically punching each other" way of expressing their power, where lucifer sort. Creaturemaster971. It’s not. Eg: The D's from Tenchi Muyo!, Giygas from Earthbound, Kubik and Post - Retcon Beyonder both from Marvel Comics, Milleniummon from Digimon, and Q from Star Trek, Celestial level: Easily universe. Name: Beyonder. The Classic Beyonder would be able to take Anti Monitor at full power out. Pre-Retcon Beyonder is a nigh omnipotent high tier multiversal reality warper there is no way in hell Anti-Spiral or even Simon could win against someone on that level of power. Follow 8344. the Elder gods should be top of their tier. Manhattan is a low-medium tier matter manipulator. That's actually like a low showing for him. I feel like Pre-Retcon Beyonder can do practically anything unless someone "more omnipotent" negates his power in some way. And yeah he stomps. Just because Beyonder, originally wasnt from marvel multiverse doesnt mean that Beyonder isnt a marvel character, because he is. At the time this storyline was written Beyonder Spider-Man would stomp. i wanted to do this match but their was also too big of a tier gap, but now it can happen both 1-A obviouslyYujiro copies The Beyonder's abilities but then says he won't need them to defeat him before showing The Beyonder the woman in him. Beyonder was affecting the entire Marvel multiverse or omniverse, or something like that, all at once. 4 years ago. CryptoCurrent MM isn't that strong in comparison to a high-tier reality warper. DC's cosmology is bigger than current Marvel's (due to the absolutely ungodly nerfs), but it's definitely not larger than Classic Marvel, where PRB hails from. #8. R1: Lucifer wins Mid-difficulty R2: Pre-recton beyonders wins high difficulty. The Beyonder is a cosmic entity of immense power. Beyonder before the retcon was stronger than TLT. Yeah true. Composite-DC/Vertigo's Infinite Hierarchy is. 5 years ago. Pre Retcon Beyonder said that the combined powers of all the beings in the multiverse (including entities) where just like a drop in the sea and is considered to be a million times powerful than. 214. Dr. Gen. 4 years ago. the dunamis demiurgos is supposed to be a 1/half copy of the presence's power. Older than the. he has base stats of high island ap and dura with near sol speed and ftl combat speed. 2. Note these are just tier names they have no real meaning here to go into a tier you have to look at all stats and feats and who you can consistently hang with-----True God. Pre retcon Beyonder is probably the closest you'd get, I'd say Lucifer could even beat the living tribunal, not really anyone else who comes close. PRB was millions of times more powerful than all the poster in the Multiverse combined. Posts. That one time Phoenix Force making Pre Retcon Beyonder struggle: is this a testament to her power? Scan in question. Beyonder is strong but not that strong. Some overkill ones would be The Brothers Death (apart from maybe small death), Scarlet King, etc. The thing is though, "Pre-Retcon Beyonder" is the Beyonder circa Secret Wars II, 1985. However, he can scale to characters with immeasurable speed via statements. You know that. Also, I should mention that they are probably re-retconning him to his previous levels soon. Tier= Universal+ | Creation. Well even pre retcon beyonder. Yeah,it’s been retconned . A. He was even above and beyond the writing staff . 7. Conceptual Warping Tier C vs Particle Manipulating Tier B. The Beyonder himself has been described as infinite-dimensional in a far more reliable and explicit narration, and been referred to as only possessing power. Beyonder trivially. Beyonder and its not even close. Tier Limit-Outerversal. (after experiencing limitation during the Doom comedy in SWI) Genius, in terms of a perfect segue to sell more comics. It took 3 of the Beyonders to take down the same LT. #31. Yes, the Ivory Kings are retcon back inspirations to Pre Retcon Beyonder, but they are merely inspirations. 5 years ago Gojira25124-Beyonder True Omnipotent değildir sadece Hyperversal level omnipotenttir. 3 + (STR*0. Gender: Inapplicable (As the character stated, "he" was made of energy. However, he can scale to characters with immeasurable speed via statements. CynicalWeeb's Demonbane is Lucifer level. 16 days ago TheDevil98Well pre-retcon beyonder was able to erase marvels death. More than just high1-b, only this support for low 1-a. Tier 0/0 > Tier A. Again, I don’t kno Fu, but if he’s Hyperversal as ur sayin, or even higher, then he’d def beat Post-retcon. The old prerecton beyonder wasnt the same as the current beyonders, but he was related to them. With this skill (plot manipulation), still can affect Pr beyonder. He first appeared in the 1984 limited series "Secret Wars" and was created by writer Jim Shooter and artist Mike Zeck. Inhuman Mutant beyonder probably pretty sure it was his powers in spidey that let him remake all creation in a fraction of a second. Then there is Inhuman/Mutant beyonder who had nothing to do with The beyonders. Here, let me pull a Beyonder feat out of my ass: With mere thoughts, the Beyonder subjects the entirety of Earth and all of its' inhabitants (down to the very microbes) to his rule, causing the most powerful leaders to bow to him instantly. 4,453 1,084. That being said, Pre-Retcon Beyonder was the HIGHEST tier character Marvel ever had. They literally referenced him and said that he was just a child. 'Twas always thus, and always thus will be. 12984. That's clearly an difference in power/authority. Hell, Featherine Augustus Aurora is more "omnipotent" than him,. So, I looked at The Beyonder's(Pre-Retcon)profile and, found out that he is rated Tier High 1-B and likely,. He wins. Bernkastel first summoned few thousands kitties, Will resisted for a while, but it did not take long for the cats to rip off one of his. Grace ended months ago, but I'm pretty sure Aka's High 1-B key is being downgraded (still high 1-B but much lower on the tier). She inherited the Demiurgic power through her father and with Lucifer's guidance, she molded and created her own universe, and that was a vastly weaker and earlier version. Multiversal. Victini could arguably do it if you allow Pokedex entries. I have little knowledge on LT Unfourantlly other then he's a God Tier in. However, the Beyonder is beyond (pun wholly, shamelessly intended) simply universe level+. Location-The Multiverse. Owen Reece was a weak, shy boy in Brooklyn, New York who obsessively clung to his mother. both use 1B rating Both team have 10 Years of prep bloodlusted. Join this channel to get access to perks:Credits to THZCheck out YFV (@YFVillainYT). 7 K than i understand from other blogs Pre-retcon Beyonder is High 1-A/ High Outerversal in beyond-realm. Making Beyonder stronger than a Tier 0 is not at all the same as scaling him to TLT. Doom did. Follow 12333. Planetary. PanzerX. And a similar amount more powerful than everything in the MU combined. He was like the 2nd strongest guy in Marvel, only underneath the One Above All. 5. So I might be missing something. • Speed: The Beyonder doesn't have too many solid speed feats, Omnipresence isn't considered as a speed tier but rather a state of existence + he's only omnipresent within. ProfessorRespect. So, I looked at The Beyonder's (Pre-Retcon)profile and, found out that he is rated Tier High 1-B and likely, 1-A. Bloodlust on. It’s not. The molecule man destroys the machine and sends the enormous energies of the Beyonder into his beyond-realm forming a big bang and creating a new universe in the process - Scan 1, Scan 2, Scan 3, Scan 4 and Scan 5. Sungsam. I have him at Multiversal. The First and Second Retcon Beyonder are not above The LIving Tribunal. The Beyonder/s (Marvel) vs Bleach universe. 8 years ago. Didn't Comic God of Stories affected Pre-Retcon Beyonder? 12 days ago.